Using the Authority of the Church !

Or Abusing it!

Does the church have the authority to Disfellowship ! “Yes” and they do it all the time based on a variety of reasons. One group has a little less authority than the other COGs! The people who are in UCG didn’t join it, not saying that no one joined it after it was formed. Im speaking of those who left WWCOG after that fateful sermon by Joe Takch and the following week people in WWCOG meet in homes and a variety of locations peacefully and as the ministers started to resign or who were disfellowshipped began worshipping with those who remained faithful to the authority of the scripture. Then after several months the ministers formed a corporation around the faithful brethren and called it United COG. So the brethren that left WWCOG didn’t really join UCG it was formed around them. So its difficult to disfellowship someone who never joined. Now those who left to follow Gerald Flurry made a decision to follow a man right or wrong, so they are subjected to his authority as were those who followed Dr. Meredith into his flock. Many other smaller groups Dave Pack, Dave Havir and many other smaller groups. When you join something you are subject to the rules and authority of that group. What makes UCG different is the core people didn’t join but were formed into an organization to consolidate effort of preaching and living Gods way. So over the years it has been more cautious on being heavy-handed and authoritative, which is a good thing. When one is baptized, he or she receives the Holy Spirit, and with that comes personal responsibility to govern ones life according to the scripture. One doesn’t need to be micro managed by leadership. This helps a Christian develop character, which is the walk of any Christian. It takes great faith to trust others with Gods spirit and allow for them to walk and grow from there experiences along the way. So Don’t believe everything your church says, read the scriptures to see if they are following them and teaching them. Its Jehovah who speaks to us by his great power were led…

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Abraham’s God was the father

Gen.14:20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” And he gave him a tithe of all. [ Abram and Melchizedek ] 18. Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High.

Psalm 89:27
Also I (Father) will MAKE him My firstborn, The highest of the kings of the earth.

Luke 1:31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.

Luke 1:76 “And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Highest; For you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways, (John the Baptist)

Exodus 22:20
“He who sacrifices to any Elohim, except to the Jehovah only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god except Yahweh must be condemned and destroyed.

20 (19) He that sacrificeth unto elohim (the g-ds), other than unto Hashem only, he shall be destroyed.

Genesis 21:33
Then Abraham planted a tamarisk tree in Beersheba, and there called on the name of the Lord, the Everlasting God.

Genesis 26:24
And the Lord appeared to him the same night and said, “I am the God of your father Abraham; do not fear, for I am with you. I will bless you and multiply your descendants for My servant Abraham’s sake.”

Exodus 3:6
Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go.

Acts 7:32
saying, ‘I am the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ And Moses trembled and dared not look.

 

 

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Psalm 83 Overlooked

This Psalm names 10 nations that form a confederacy to wipe Israel off the map that they might be a nation no more! they seek crafty council, could this be the 10 toes that come together like Iron and Clay? And the final verse 18 confirms that the Most High the father is the only God! This is the foundation of our faith Who God Is !!!

Complete Jewish bible Ps.83:18) Let them know that you alone,
whose name is Adonai, (ADONIA ALWAYS THE FATHER, Adoni =other lords including Jesus)
are the Most High over all the earth.

1599 Geneva bible Ps.83:18 That they may [n]know that thou, which art calleth Jehovah, art alone, even the most High over all the earth.

KJV. PS.83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

Wycliffe Bible Ps.83
18 And know they, that Lord is name to thee; thou alone art the Highest in every land. (And then they shall know, that The Lord is thy name; and that thou alone art the Most High in all the earth.)

World English Bible Ps.83:18 18
that they may know that you alone, whose name is Yahweh,
are the Most High over all the earth.

Names of God Ps.83:18 so that they must acknowledge you.
Your name is Yahweh.
You alone are Elyon of the whole earth.

Webster Dictionary defines the word “Alone” as 1
: separated from others : isolated
was alone in the office
2
: exclusive of anyone or anything else : only
She alone knows what happened.

Most High Dan. 4:17
‘This decision is by the decree of the watchers,
And the sentence by the word of the holy ones,
In order that the living may know
That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men,
Gives it to whomever He will,
And sets over it the lowest of men.’

Ps. 97:9 For You, Lord, are most high above all the earth; You are exalted far above all gods. (Singular God followed by plural gods more than one)

Dan.4:34 And at the end of the time I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me; and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever: For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom is from generation to generation.

Mark 5:7 And he cried out with a loud voice and said, “What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me.”( Jesus is not the most high God and David only new the Most High God and his promise to send a savior though David’s linage.)

Dan.7:25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time

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Here you have it, Psalm 83 outlining a 10 nation conspiracy  against The Father’s people to make them a nation no more and speaking pompous words against the Most High by denying his only begotten Jesus. The Dome on the Rock is built on the holiest site in Jerusalem, The Temple Mount! Think about how important these two foundational truths are! 1. The Father is the Only God of both new and old testaments and 2. the antichrist we have been looking for is staring us straight in the eye on the temple mount. Our ability to understand the last days knowledge that Daniel spoke about is hindered by Church of God tradition. Don’t believe tradition, believe the scriptures above…

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Understanding Elohim

Elohim plural or singular:

First verse in the bible Gen.1:1 Getting this wrong! What would that mean?  Religion built on Sand, their is no foundation and the structure will move from one god to two gods to three gods as history has proved. So now isn’t it about time Christianity find out who there worshipping and how to worship and why  Jesus Worships this one and only true God!

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Elohim is a grammatically singular or plural noun for “god” or “gods” in both modern and ancient Hebrew language. When used with singular verbs and adjectives elohim is usually singular, “god” or especially, the God. When used with plural verbs and adjectives elohim is usually plural, “gods” or “powers”

“The word Elohim when referring to a single God is always translated as a singular in all Bible translations. When Elohim refers to a group of gods it is translated into English as “gods.” In other words, the way one determines how to translate Elohim depends on context and the verb. (In Hebrew the verb contains information about whether it is singular or plural). So, in conclusion, we ask our Trinitarian friends to stop using Elohim to support their doctrine. This argument is not compelling and it is not being used by the top Trinitarian scholars anymore.”  by Sean Finnegan
Frequently the word Elohim (the Hebrew word for God) is used to assert that God is plural. Naturally, this occurs because the word Elohim is plural in form. In Hebrew the “-im” ending indicates a plural like the “-s” ending in English. However, language is a tricky thing. Sometimes one will come across a word that ends in an “s” but is not plural (like “news”). The same occurs in Hebrew. Even so, rather than make the case myself (since my understanding of Hebrew is very limited), I have found a number of excellent Bible dictionary entim tries that make the point very well. Please note that most of these entries were written by people who believe in the Trinity, but even so, they DO NOT use the plural form of the word Elohim to make their case. by Sean Finnegan
“Elohim, though plural in form, is seldom used in the OT as such (i.e. gods). Even a single heathen god can be designated with the plural Elohim (e.g. Jdg.11:24;1 Ki.11:5; 2 Ki.1:2). In Israel the plural is understood as the PLURAL OF FULLNESS; God is the God who really, and in the fullest sense of the word, is God” (J. Schneider, ‘God, Gods, Emmanuel’ in The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology: Vol. 2, ed. Colin Brown, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan,197b), p. 67)

After years of writing about our only father who is God alone and there is no other people still don’t get it! I Tim 6:13 I urge you in the sight of  God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, 14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing, 15 which He(The father) will manifest in His own time,(Matt.24:36 [ No One Knows the Day or Hour ] “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.) He(father) who is the blessed and only [e]Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone(father) has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.

Only the father has eternal life and has existed before all things as Christ confirms John 5:19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. John 5:30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 17:2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. ICor. 15:23  But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. And in the end Christ returns all authority and power to the one and only God who gave it and in trusted it with his only child…

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Shining Light Blog Heresy

James Malm, author and COG offshoot , calls UCG shift on the nature of God as Heresy! This sounds like the liberal news and Democratic party attacking the person or group because they can’t argue their point credibly there facts are opinion and in Malms case not scriptural! Example of found in yesterdays Shining Light blog! “It is most important to understand that the very Creator God (John 1) first gave up his God-ship resigning as a God Being to become mortal flesh and then he gave up his life for us, so that through sincere repentance and the application of that sacrifice we could be redeemed from our sins and receive the gift of eternal life as spirit sons of God!
Malm writes what one would call “Gods great deception to man
Before the birth of Yeshua [Jesus] in the flesh, God was thought to be a single entity composed of ONE Being. During that time, unknown to humanity; the Being who became the Father left all human affairs in the hands of his Spirit High Priest Melchizedek [who later gave up his Godhood to become flesh as Jesus Christ].”
First assumption that god 2 was the creator when clearly Jesus says in Mark 10:6 that the father created them male and female. Second assumption is that god 2 a spirit being gave up being god! This kind of thinking comes from choosing 1 of many interpretations of Phil.2:6 which have been covered on this blog. Critical thinking has to consider this telling scripture in I Cor. about the spirit being and the physical being I Cor.15:44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
We must consider at least two things from the above! First if Jesus was a spirit being before a human being, then it would be the spirit first ,followed by the physical, 2. then returning to what he already was spirit. Then we have to ask how is he the first born among many when he was already a spirit being or a god before his human birth which would also lead to the question of whether he really was a human being in the first place.
The Being who became the father Malm writes
I guess it really didn’t matter which one became man! I heard and Elder recently say they flipped a coin to decide which one would do the dirty work! Gasp and we wonder why God our father who art in heaven hasn’t destroyed the COGs for their blatant disrespect and disregard for sound scriptural interpretation!!!
For us there is One God the father 1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
John 17:3 And this is Eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Knowing this is equated to Eternal Life, pretty sad to be so disrespectful to our God and father by the tradition of men and church tradition, do the explanations we have been listening to over the many years really follow biblical exegesis considering the over 10,000 singular pronouns describing the one God and father of the old testament and the many statements in the new testament where Jesus claims to have a God! therefore he can not be God, for God has no God because the father alone is God…

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Hath Not one God created Us ?

Malachi 2:10 10
Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Jer.3:19 ‘You shall call Me, “My Father,” Jesus said  “Our Father who art in Heaven”
And not turn away from Me. (singular) Deut.32:6 Do you thus deal[a] with the Lord,
O foolish and unwise people?Is He not your Father, who bought you?Has He not made you and established you?

Gen.1:1 In the beginning Elohim created the Heaven and thee Earth. If we miss understand this verse the rest of the bible is built on sand! Upon this Rock I shall build my Church Matt. 16:18 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, The very foundation of the Church of His Father is founded on Christ witness that he is the very son of the One God of Israel. Matt.4:10  Then Jesus said to him, [b]“Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

Luke 2:52  And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men. As the boy Jesus grew into manhood he increased in Favor! With Who? God. How could he grow in favor and knowledge if he was God, he would already posses it. The man Jesus had the same growth as all humans he grew up applied himself made something of himself and not to under mind that, His father was God Himself.

Jesus understood who the God of the old testament was and at 12 he understood that the God that his mother and father  and the rest of the people of Israel worshipped was none other than His father. We must remember that during Jesus 33 years he was going to the temple worshiping and making offerings to the only God he knew of Israel! The new testament wasn’t written till years after Jesus death and resurrection. The only God being worshipped during that time, was the only God they new, the father. Jesus being elevated to god status took a couple of century’s and not confirmed till Nicea 325. By then the legend of the man Christ took on a legend of its own and the Three god concept came as the church got further and further off track from the monotheistic God of the bible, confirmed by Jesus himself in many text including Mark 10:6 and others. Understanding that only the father is God and he acted alone is the foundation of Who Is and Who isn’t God…

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Nature of God I’AM God an Not Man

Hosea 11:9 God states He is not Man, Jesus was a man and died
“I will not execute the fierceness of My anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim. For I am God, and not man, The Holy One in your midst; And I will not come with terror”.

Your not hearing the well thought out arguments by ministers and brethren that put serious questions in the doctrine taught by COG concerning the Nature of God.   Brethren the nature of God is again being written about and papers are in the pipeline to confirm what we have taught since HWA came 1/3 of the way back from the 3 God trinity to the 2 God binitarian view but at every turn and every counter paper to support the 1 God of the bible, it has been utterly rejected,  minsters and brethren have been disfellowshipped, and there good questions rejected and censored in lew of church tradition. It will take an act of God for John 1:1 to be read aloud in the William Tyndale bible. The Greek scholar who is never quoted in COG concerning his single greatest gift to translation… But they do say he was a great scholar but remain silent on John1;1 which if you get this scripture wrong you’ll never understand the Shema. Jesus equates eternal life with knowing only his father is truely God! Absolutely astounding words of Jesus. John 17:3

The God of the Old Testament Written by James Malm Shining Light blog
25/10/2018
Church of God News
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Brethren, I have no interest in hurting the UCG CoE by waiting until they approve their Paper and then analyzing it. Quite the contrary I have felt moved to compile and publish this study before the CoE approves a Paper in December. This Paper is published in love and concern, and in the hope that they will consider these points as they produce and approve their own Position Paper.  James Malm Shining Light blog

I read what Mr Malm wrote and then I commented on his version of who is and who isn’t God. He says he has hope and concern and was compelled and he  published his version of the truth in Love. So if we take this at face value we might consider Mr Malm as a truth seeking person right. But lets ask Him why my comment below was not accepted or printed ! “Answer” Mr Malm doesn’t believe it, which he is free to do, but that doesn’t make my comments not true. It Reminds me of HWA on radio saying to the public “Don’t believe me look in your bible, which sounded reasonable, until one took the plunge into the WWCOG and the narrative change to believe everything we teach or be disfellowshipped. I have no personal dislike for the Mr Malm or HWA I believe they did, or are doing what they think is right, as do many of us, but again, to not print other scriptural insights is like fake news, or what goes on in mainstream journalism…

Read my comment below to Mr Malms version of two separate Gods, it would take volumes to go through every point he made and in my blog wwpog I have covered many of the John 1:1 Phil 2:5-6 and the John 8:58 in detail and are available for scrutiny. My purpose is not a following, or a making a living, but after sitting and listen to sermons over the last 50 years you hear patterns that the speakers or writers sometimes don’t know there using ! The most abused of these is this non scriptural saying “When Jesus was the God of the old testament!” Of course he wasn’t and I would throw  out that I personally have never heard a sermon speaker say ” That when God comes back the second time he will do this or that! They always say when Christ returns or when Jesus returns he will be our High Priest! I always wonder why God isn’t coming back, the only time I hear that is when they quote Rev.21:3 If God were already here with us on earth why would he be coming down from Heaven after the Great White Throne judgement period and Jesus hands all power and authority back to the God  ICor. 15:24

Romans 3:3 What advantage then has the Jew, or what is the profit of circumcision? 2 Much in every way! Chiefly because to them were committed the [The scripture} oracles of God. 3 For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect? Are the Jews the gate keepers to Hebrew scripture and the rules of grammar and words under God’s directive?

Below  are my comments on Mr. Malm’s “Nature of God” paper 10/25/18, he denied my comments and controls all comments that are pro biblical monotheism. So fake news you’re not hearing what his readers are thinking if it doesn’t agree with his view. Where is the Love and concern he talks about ?

This is what happens when individuals take it upon themselves to be authorities on Gods word. This paper  is so Trinitarian that I don’t know where to begin. The Church of God has never understood the man Jesus or the only one who is truly God John 5:44 because HWA didn’t understand Hebrew or Greek. The second blow of the Trinity is the Jehovah Witness denying the Holy Spirit as a member of this three in one God teaching making their way 1/3 of the way back to 1 God and Father of all. The Hebrew word Elohim is not plural unless the adjective and the verb in the sentence are plural. This makes Gen.1:1 singular because of the singular verb and adjective. The “US” Gen. 1:26 is not explicit in who the Father is addressing ! Could it be the 24 Elders? It is worth studying in lew of Gen.1:1 being singular verse 27 follows with “So God created man in His image. In the image of God He created him male and female He created them. The oracles The scriptures were to be preserved by the Jews not the Lost Ten tribes or HWA. Targum Yonasan paraphrases And God said to the ministering angels “Let Us make Man” When Moses wrote the Torah and came to this verse(Let Us make), which is in the plural and implies that there is more than one Creator, he said: ” Sovereign of the Universe! Why do You thus furnish a pretext for heretics to maintain that there is a plurality of divinities?” “Write” God replied. Whoever wishes to err will err… Instead, let them Learn from their creator Who created all, yet when He came to create Man He took counsel with the ministering angels” (Midrash). Thus God taught that one should always consult others before embarking upon major new initiatives, and He was not deterred by the possibility that some might choose to find a sacrilegious implication in the verse. God’s response, “Whoever wishes to err.” implies that one who sincerely seeks the truth will see it; one who looks for an excuse to blaspheme will find it. Brethren in light of this could one not be moved by the Holy Spirit to at least realize the greater Church of God and this article above is not biblical teaching , but church tradition  and can’t stand up to line by line scrutiny of the scriptures. Mark 10:6 Jesus own words say that the father created them male and female! We can’t ignore Jesus words by our own church tradition and Peter in Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham Isaac, and Jacob, The God of our fathers, glorified His servant Jesus. Here we learn that the God of the old testament was the father and that Jesus was His God’s servant. Brethren when you go through all the so-called verses and understand in light of a One God and father bible, you can come to the great hidden knowledge of the truth, which is Who is your God and Father and know one else besides Him. Is.44:6-8 James I wish you had it in you to lead an open discussion concerning The True Nature Of God, not taught in The Church of God. We should be able to reason in the scriptures together but I don’t see it, All I see is fear and control and censorship. Where is the agape? Father God help us all.

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