Ex.3:14 I Am That I Am verses John 8:58

Ex. 3:13 And Moses said unto God, behold when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them the God of your fathers hath sent me unto you. and they shall say to me, what is his name? what shall I say unto them? First we must establish who is the god of our fathers? was it Jesus or the father? Peter answers this in Acts 3:13 “The God of Abraham, Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his son. 18. But those things, which God(father) before showed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Acts. 229-30 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried and his sepulcher is with us unto this day. 30. Therefore being a prophet and knowing that God had sworn with and oath to him that of the fruit of his loins,(the seed) according to the flesh, He(the father) would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; ( So we know Jesus wasn’t yet in heaven by the fathers statement) Notice the Hebrew bible rendering of Ex.3:14 “The God of your forefathers has sent me to you, and they say to me What is His name, what shall I say to them? God said to Moses I Shall Be, As I shall Be, And he said, So shall you say to the Children of Israel, I Shall Be has sent me to you. And say further Did God to Moses . So shall you say to the children of Israel Hashem or your forefathers the God of Abraham Isaac and of Jacob, has sent me to you.”  Commentary, What is his Name? Obviously the Jews knew the various names of God, so that the question cannot be understood literally. God has many Names each of which represents the way in which He reveals himself through His behavior toward the world. When He is merciful, He is called Hashem, the name represents compassion. This name also represents the eternity of God, for it is composed of the letters that spell, He was and He will be. meaning that God is timeless. When he exercises strict judgment, He is called Elohim. When He exercises His mastery over nature and performs hidden miracles, as he did for the patriarchs, He is called Shaddai. Thus Moses was saying that once the Jews accepted him as God’s emissary, they would want to know which of God’s attributes He would manifest in the course of redeeming them from Egypt. I Shall Be As I Shall Be. This is in itself a Divine Name. Literally I Shall Be – is as follows: I shall be with them in this sorrow, as I shall be with them in other sorrows. To this Moses replied, “An evil in its own time is enough” Why should You imply to them that there will be future exiles; is it not enough that they suffer now in Egypt? Accepting Moses argument, God instructed him to say, {“I Shall Be with them in this sorrow} has sent me to you.” Brethren this is worth the study and we need to understand the Hebrew mindset and understanding of ancient Israel to grasp the true meaning of scripture.

John 8:58 Before Abraham was I Am. Gen.22:18 The promise to Abraham for his faithfulness that all of his off spring including the future Messiah would be a blessing. Luke 10:24 For I tell you that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which you see and have not seen them and to hear those things which you hear and have heard not them. Gal. 3:8 And the scripture foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith preached before the gospel unto Abraham saying, In thee shall all the nations be blessed. John 8:41 We have one father even God. 42. Jesus said unto them if God were your father, you would love me.53. Art thou greater than (Or equal to God?) our father Abraham, which is dead and the prophets are dead, whom makest thou thyself? Commentary from “One God One Lord by Grasser, Lynn, Schoenheit.” page 462 Trinitarians argue that this verse John 8:58 states that Jesus said he was the “I am” (i.e.the Yahweh of the old testament) so he must be God. This is just not the case. Saying “I am” does not make a person God. The man born blind that Jesus healed was not claiming to be God John 9:9 and he said “I am the man,” and the Greek reads exactly like Jesus statement, :i.e.”I am” and the other as “I am the man” This is one reason it is hard for average Christians to get the truth from just reading the Bible as it has been translated by Trinitarians into English.” Paul uses the same phrase of himself in Acts 26:29 when he said that he wished all men were as “I am”.

Brethren there is much  more on this verse and this topic! Jesus is simply stating that he was before Abraham because he was the promised Messiah to take the throne of all Israel Just as David Moses and the prophets foretold  there would be and rejoiced to see the day.

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